Comments on: This Side of “Paradise” http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/ Consuming Les$, Eating More Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:36:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Tea! http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-34175 Tea! Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:08:23 +0000 http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/#comment-34175 I always read it as "Mandarin Orange" Spice tea, as in a type of Orange, if that helps with the rantiness ;) I always read it as “Mandarin Orange” Spice tea, as in a type of Orange, if that helps with the rantiness ;)

]]> By: Enrico http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-30746 Enrico Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:40:27 +0000 http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/#comment-30746 Was watching "Gangs of New York" and heard the term 'celestial' used towards Chinese people and it got me thinking. Searched for its roots and found your piece on celestal seasonings tea - any connection to the racist term from the 19th century? I never drink it anyway, but its surprising there isn't more talk about the implications. Was watching “Gangs of New York” and heard the term ‘celestial’ used towards Chinese people and it got me thinking. Searched for its roots and found your piece on celestal seasonings tea – any connection to the racist term from the 19th century? I never drink it anyway, but its surprising there isn’t more talk about the implications.

]]> By: Stasigr http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-24745 Stasigr Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:33:48 +0000 http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/#comment-24745 Hello, very nice site, keep up good job! Admin good, very good. Hello, very nice site, keep up good job!
Admin good, very good.

]]> By: Jasmin http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-23973 Jasmin Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:11:32 +0000 http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/#comment-23973 Girl, you need to get yourself some loose-leaf tea! (Pref, organic and fair trade :) Our ancestors, they are WEEPING. What is this tea bag you speak of? ;) Girl, you need to get yourself some loose-leaf tea! (Pref, organic and fair trade :)

Our ancestors, they are WEEPING. What is this tea bag you speak of? ;)

]]> By: Lilster http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-23470 Lilster Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:59:11 +0000 http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/#comment-23470 I saw the new box in the store today. She's still on it. I saw the new box in the store today. She’s still on it.

]]> By: Lilster http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-23301 Lilster Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:38:24 +0000 http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/#comment-23301 I think Celestial Seasonings may have heard you, as recently in the stores I've seen a bunch of the CS teas repackaged with new boxes, finally changing the look they've have for years. Not sure if Mandarin Orange Spice is one of them, so I don't know if she's still on the box. I've never liked black teas -- they don't sit well, and especially now that I'm pregnant, I've been drinking a lot of these fruity non-caffeinated ones. For the orange spice kind, I prefer Yogi Tea's Moroccan Orange Spice, although that also has a woman on the front of the packaging. However, last week in Whole Foods I noticed that Yogi Tea also seems to be moving to image-free boxes. As herbal teas go, CS isn't my favorite brand, but I have found when traveling or in places that have limited shelf space or unadventurous buyers, CS is most likely to be the only herbal tea variety in the shop, and it will do. I think Celestial Seasonings may have heard you, as recently in the stores I’ve seen a bunch of the CS teas repackaged with new boxes, finally changing the look they’ve have for years. Not sure if Mandarin Orange Spice is one of them, so I don’t know if she’s still on the box. I’ve never liked black teas — they don’t sit well, and especially now that I’m pregnant, I’ve been drinking a lot of these fruity non-caffeinated ones. For the orange spice kind, I prefer Yogi Tea’s Moroccan Orange Spice, although that also has a woman on the front of the packaging. However, last week in Whole Foods I noticed that Yogi Tea also seems to be moving to image-free boxes.

As herbal teas go, CS isn’t my favorite brand, but I have found when traveling or in places that have limited shelf space or unadventurous buyers, CS is most likely to be the only herbal tea variety in the shop, and it will do.

]]> By: lorelei http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-23130 lorelei Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:11:18 +0000 http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/#comment-23130 Cathy, I completely agree with you about bogus "Oriental" marketing. And I recommend the teas at Adagio, delicious and no funky marketing crap. I especially love their English Breakfast and jasmine varities. http://www.adagio.com/?SID=615ac694d1a013c40e587ee82cb46faa Cathy, I completely agree with you about bogus “Oriental” marketing. And I recommend the teas at Adagio, delicious and no funky marketing crap. I especially love their English Breakfast and jasmine varities. http://www.adagio.com/?SID=615ac694d1a013c40e587ee82cb46faa

]]> By: cathy http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-23125 cathy Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:50:26 +0000 http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/#comment-23125 Pete: That is an interesting perspective as well. Lindsey: Thanks for the kind words! And you've proven that this debate extends much farther than one package or one minority. As Janet said, ethnic foods often tap into these issues. We could be here all year discussing them, and frankly, I wouldn't mind it. Thanks again! Pete: That is an interesting perspective as well.
Lindsey: Thanks for the kind words! And you’ve proven that this debate extends much farther than one package or one minority. As Janet said, ethnic foods often tap into these issues. We could be here all year discussing them, and frankly, I wouldn’t mind it. Thanks again!

]]> By: Pete http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-23085 Pete Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:17:38 +0000 http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/#comment-23085 Hey Cathy. I'm glad you've finally found Celestial Seasoning's mandarin orange blend. It is a flavor deeply ingrained in my cultural DNA, the aroma that I grew up with. I could never forget the countless mornings in which my mom would wake up before Buddha and the roosters, put on her best geisha makeup to pick mandarin oranges (or as we called them, "oranges") in the mist. As we sipped these delicate cups of mystery, we always commented, in quiet awe, on mama-san's ability to create these tireless allures every morning. "How, Under the Great Wall, was she able to combine the flavor of luscious oranges mingles with piquant cloves, which evokes pretty much Everything We Are About?" I cannot tell you how many times my brothers and I have sipped the tea, then nodding in agreement, as if to say "yes, yes, this is exactly who we are as a people." So yeah, that's really crazy that you're drinking that tea right now, 'cause it's almost as if you're drinking yourself. Drink yourself to sleep, drink yourself to death, drink yourself, Cathy, to the Far Eastern Oriental Mysery Paradise Blend of Exotic Fingertips. Hey Cathy. I’m glad you’ve finally found Celestial Seasoning’s mandarin orange blend. It is a flavor deeply ingrained in my cultural DNA, the aroma that I grew up with. I could never forget the countless mornings in which my mom would wake up before Buddha and the roosters, put on her best geisha makeup to pick mandarin oranges (or as we called them, “oranges”) in the mist. As we sipped these delicate cups of mystery, we always commented, in quiet awe, on mama-san’s ability to create these tireless allures every morning. “How, Under the Great Wall, was she able to combine the flavor of luscious oranges mingles with piquant cloves, which evokes pretty much Everything We Are About?” I cannot tell you how many times my brothers and I have sipped the tea, then nodding in agreement, as if to say “yes, yes, this is exactly who we are as a people.”
So yeah, that’s really crazy that you’re drinking that tea right now, ’cause it’s almost as if you’re drinking yourself. Drink yourself to sleep, drink yourself to death, drink yourself, Cathy, to the Far Eastern Oriental Mysery Paradise Blend of Exotic Fingertips.

]]> By: lindsey http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-23047 lindsey Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:56:30 +0000 http://noteatingoutinny.com/2007/10/10/this-side-of-paradise/#comment-23047 <i>I don’t think we use “mysterious” when describing Italian culture.</i> (note: i tend to think of mysterious as complement rather than a slur - mysterious means it intrigues me and i want to find out more. mysterious is the hook that starts the impetus of learning.) i'm hard pressed to find the difference between the romanticism in CC's hyperbole copy for the tea, which sounds like any marketing jargon for any product, and the romanticism popular culture has thrown italy's way. "under a tuscan sun"? didn't that whole movie tell me the sensual, life-changing mysteries that italy would unfold for me would solve all my problems if i could just get myself to a villa? and we paint, to a fault, parisian women as sensual and mysterious...is the difference that they are somehow empowered while the asian woman is submissive? i'm not really arguing with you, actually, because i agree with your rant. i don't like stereotypes that diminish people, especially women, either. i'm just piping up for one of my favorite herbal teas...CC seems like innocuous tinder for this particular fire. the snapple tea sensei/xiānshēng ads get under my skin much more. anyhow, i still adore your blog. :-D I don’t think we use “mysterious” when describing Italian culture.

(note: i tend to think of mysterious as complement rather than a slur – mysterious means it intrigues me and i want to find out more. mysterious is the hook that starts the impetus of learning.)

i’m hard pressed to find the difference between the romanticism in CC’s hyperbole copy for the tea, which sounds like any marketing jargon for any product, and the romanticism popular culture has thrown italy’s way. “under a tuscan sun”? didn’t that whole movie tell me the sensual, life-changing mysteries that italy would unfold for me would solve all my problems if i could just get myself to a villa?

and we paint, to a fault, parisian women as sensual and mysterious…is the difference that they are somehow empowered while the asian woman is submissive?

i’m not really arguing with you, actually, because i agree with your rant. i don’t like stereotypes that diminish people, especially women, either. i’m just piping up for one of my favorite herbal teas…CC seems like innocuous tinder for this particular fire. the snapple tea sensei/xiānshēng ads get under my skin much more.

anyhow, i still adore your blog. :-D

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